Quote from Racer X NZ :

but !!!!!!!!

I notice those two clock photos had different times on them. YOu think they were taken in different time zones?

The second photo? That's not a truck. And I'm from Houston Remember? Aside from making Home Invasion an extreme sport, we also invented the whole artcar concept. Not impressed.

Third Photo. That clown? Really? Hell. He doesn't even have a truck. Probably doesn't know how to drive either.

The Artcar Parade..... Used to be really cool back in the day. Now it's pretty much commercialized and copycats elsewhere. The guy that pretty much founded the parade? Well he got killed by a drunk driver in front of the place the art drivers hang out during that parade weekend a few years back. How ironic, huh?
The driver? He was a drunken teenager..... yeah. Driving a truck.

Quote from Racer X NZ :

Actually, the question is really "What the **** is wrong with the US?"

The U.S. Defense Department is still using — after several decades — 8-inch floppy disks in a computer system that coordinates the operational functions of the nation's nuclear forces, a jaw-dropping new report reveals.

Defense has plans to upgrade its nuclear-related technology system soon. Lt. Col. Valerie Henderson, department spokeswoman, said: "This system remains in use because, in short, it still works. However, to address 'obsolescence concerns' , the floppy drives are scheduled to be replaced with Secure Digital devices by the end of 2017. Modernization across the entire Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications (NC3) enterprise remains ongoing."

And here we are arguing about VR systems and if a 1080 is a good investment for the future..........

Go Team USA..........

“We'll be saying a big hello to all intelligent lifeforms everywhere and to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.”


(No, not the latest 5 1/4" but actually 8". 5 1/4 will clearly be the next 'Big Step Forward'........ )

........The 8-inch floppy disk is to computers what the hand crank starter is to automobiles—a relic of the past, existing in museums, black-and-white photos and maybe your grandfather’s basement.

They’re the stuff of computer nostalgia, finding themselves made into a desk clock, attached to a tote bag or throw pillow, or emblazoned on a T-shirt. And they can also be used to launch intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Worse than that, the US military uses Chrysler(dodge) Pick-up trucks. Pickup trucks (utes) Racer X. Utes.
I don't know if the military uses them on bases in Europe though. Probably not. That's pickup truks Racer X. Utes, not word processors, 10 key or floppy disks. Trucks. Trucks in Europe Racer X. Europe. With a E.
And besides, you're looking at this the wrong way. Those Floppy disks? Hey that's Retro Chic. Where's your sense of style?

You know. It's really weird how reading about one topic on one thread can lead you to think about something else almost entirely unrelated.
The thread about the LX8 has led me to ponder truly modeled spoked wheels in LFS and how would they be affected by LFS physics.
One of the reasons spoke wheels fell out of favor with performance cars was at higher speeds, they had a tendency to come loose. If those type spoked wheels were to be modeled for LFS for say the road cars, would that be a factor? I mean if you actually rendered the spokes, threads and all and coded the torquing down of those spokes, would there be a risk for them to come loose? or would the loosening factor have to be coded in as well. I know you can simply draw up wheels that look like spoked wheels. But that's not really what I'm wanting. I guess what I'm really wanting to know is how realistic can you get? And could something like this be done within the confines of the game engine without draining resources or some sort of massive redo?

Quote from Racer X NZ :

It's now time to focus on Trump.....

Here's the thing with HRC. She can get away with this because of two reasons. The first one. Look who are responsible for pursuing the cases against her. By the the time they can compile enough evidence to build an air tight case against her and her regime, she'll be President. What happens to all those investigators then?
Hillary Clinton is a very big fish. Unlike with Don Gotti and OJ Simpson and even Mark Zimmerman, if they fail to get a conviction, they're as good as dead. And if her administration is in place before they can get indictments? Would you want to go after a Presidential candidate knowing you have a deadline you won't make and a current administration that's hostile to your investigation?
The second reason? Look at who is on her team. The mass media and the entertainment industry. Zany things like the transgendered bathrooms for pre-pubescent school kids are thrown up as smoke and mirrors.
Preferential attention gets paid to the candidates. Everyone knows all about Donald Trump.
And if you'll notice, the reporting on the Clinton emails and Benghazi are done in such a way as to make the accusers look like idiots. Even the camera angles are done in a way to enhance this effect to the person watching the news story.
And then there's how the Democrat party operates in general. How it gets a lot of its voters. Thankfully, we don't have trade unions getting in the way very much here, but in non right to work states, unions still have a hold on people. If you're, say a union welder, try showing up at the jobsite with a pro-republican bumper sticker on your car. You better have more than one spare tire. And if you don't donate to a candidate that the local endorses, try getting a job from the hall.
The way they handle minority and working poor voters is even more despicable. The democrats flat out control the social welfare industry of this country. Don't support them? Fine. Then starve.
Minority vote drives, this happens mostly in Black neighborhoods, but these clowns have been trying get a foot hold here in vato land and other Latino/Hispanic neighborhoods across the country too. They'll tell you how you have the freedom to vote and how your vote really does make a difference and how you need to exercise this God-given right. Say you agree, but somehow want to vote for a Republican? You'll find out real quick that what they really meant was you have the freedom and god-given right to vote for who they tell you to vote for.

That's how Hillary Clinton gets away with being Hillary Clinton.

Quote from cargame.nl :

Yeah... Well... Hhhmm.. Personal taste.. I don't like the NGT class so much

This class can be more entertaining if it gets joined by a LX version.. Not replaced.. But ... Maybe it differs too much after all like LX4 does with TBO.

Oh. I know! We could have the LX8 racing against..... UTES!
You just thought you were safe hiding in this thread. MUHAHAHAHAHAH

I dunno. I think that would be a good match up. The LX8 with the UFR and the XFR. But that match-up just seems a little weird conceptual wise. Not as weird as say a dragster in Formula V8 class, but getting there. I think there would have to be additional cars added to that class (a race version of the RB4 as well?) to balance it out a little better.

And if they did put out the LX8, hopefully it will have better looking wheels. When you see an LX4, just think that somewhere out in the Old West, a chuckwagon is up on blocks. And LOL if the LX8 just had to have a spare tire like the LX4, then maybe it could be mounted on the side of the car. Like an old Dusenburg or Diamler or something from the 1920's. But then it would have to have really shinny tires.

Quote from Racer X NZ :

OK team, as this is;

A: Completely separate and unrelated to this thread.

Otherwise, my identity as an Attack helicopter will become triggered and I will take action.

But it is. It's should show you why you have something to post about Hillary Clinton in the first place.

Quote from Forbin :

And how did you come to this conclusion? Are you a medical professional? The medical literature is quite clear on this topic. Kids conceptualize their own gender identity very early on.

Like Racer Y, you seem unreasonably concerned with how people live their own lives.


Pot, kettle, black.

What does the wiki article have to do with brain dead parenting and playing fast and loose with their kid's genes?

Yeah, I'm kind of concerned. I get real concerned when defective types such as these flakes are given some sort of special consideration instead of the bullet in the head they deserve for being oh so willing to do that to their kid (prolly more like something to do with getting their 15 min.s of fame in more than anything else) And not only get that special consideration, but to expect me to just go along with it? And not just expect me, but extort me to bend to this stupidity. Yeah. Extort. The federal government has decided to suspend and federal funding to states that don't enforce the Pick your own bathroom garbage.
DO you even stop to think, no don't read off stats - THINK, what something like that can do to normal kids coming of age and are already a little awkward about sexual identification?

You know. This reminds me of something.... I remember seeing this punk band in a club called the Axiom back in the day. I went into the men's (?) room to pee. Sitting in the urinal, yes sitting in it, next to me was one of two lesbian chicks arguing.

Oh and if you somehow think transgendered people and murder need to be brought up, Forbin, then let's not forget Ed Gein.

"Soon after his mother's death, Gein began to create a "woman suit" so that "...he could become his mother—to literally crawl into her skin".[18] Gein's practice of donning the tanned skins of women was described as an "insane transvestite ritual."[38] Gein denied having sex with the bodies he exhumed, explaining: "They smelled too bad."[38] During state crime laboratory interrogation, Gein also admitted to the shooting death of Mary Hogan, a tavern owner missing since 1954 whose head was found in his house, but he later denied memory of details of her death."

I have a book called The Encyclopedia of American Crime. Yeah. He's in that book. THe Wiki article doesn't even touch the surface about Ol Ed.

Quote from Forbin :

The alternative is forcing them to go through puberty against their will and causing changes to their body that will require expensive, time-consuming, and painful treatment, if the trans individual decides they don't like those changes.

So to avoid that pain, would a 4th trimester abortion be OK too?
What about when the kid grows up and realizes there's been a mistake? How about then?

No That's not an alternative Forbin. That's Bat Sh!t crazy. The alternative is use some common sense and deal with mental illness as mental illness. Or in the case of these scum bag parents - try actually being a parent.
I highly doubt that there is ANY sort of Genetic anomaly in the kid's chromosones and strongly suspect a kid with an over active imagination and a couple of dim-witted parents that are shining examples for using condoms, coddling to the madness.


See Racer X? This why we're getting stuck with that dirt bag Hillary in November. Someone comes along and makes sure that stupid crap like this takes the forefront instead of things that we really should be paying attention to..
Priorities Racer X. Priorities. It's all about Priorities and we've done thrown that out the freaking window along with common sense and logical reasoning.

Quote from Forbin :

They don't give trans children hormones. They give them hormone blockers to delay puberty and allow them to choose how to proceed at an older age.

Also, your post above is incredibly ableist and transphobic,

And you think that's OK....
So.... with that logic it's OK for me to shoot my granddaughter thru the crossbow the next time she decides she's an arrow?

Wait... I'm Jesus Christ dammit! give me money! You know I'm Jesus because I said I was! Now give me money and my own special bathroom you sinner!
Now doesn't that make a lot of sense Forbin?
Yeah, I may be transphobic (afraid of defects?) but at least I'm not a gullible herd animal.
It's probably a good thing those stupid parents didn't have a kid that thought he was a gold fish - huh?

Quote from Racer X NZ :

Want to support Hillary?, Watch the movie

You know that saying about being in between a rock and a hard place? A Rolling Stones Song?
Here's a quick quiz - the4 kind that ain't on the citizenship test.

As a proud American, this presidential election, I can:
a - vote against Hillary and vote for Trump, who 'll lag behind her in November?
b - vote for a third party candidate, like a libertarian or a green and just take votes away from the only person that almost stood a chance to beat her?
c - give up and realize that she's got this hands down and that i'll have take an apologetic tone when discussing the finer points of political systems with Non Americans on the Internet?

Do you have any idea what's going to happen when she gets sworn in?

But then again, what do you expect? You go for all these arcane conspiracies... well the truth is stranger than fiction, cousin.
We have dams and highways falling apart. Why? because doing something about it isn't as glamorous as say squabbling over schools having transgendered bathrooms.
Speaking of, and this is off topic, I saw a commercial for a talk show. On it was a family that had some little freak boy that thought he was a girl. They were being applauded for getting this - I think 7 year old hormone inducing shots. Can you believe that? These parents should be locked up and sterilized. Not applauded. And yet, this is supposed to be acceptable. If that's the case, then why not go all the hell out and legalize 4th trimester abortions?
Like you have little Johnnie. He doesn't think he's a girl. In fact he doesn't think much at all. You realize little Johnnie isn't as bright as the other kids and probably won't ever be. You realize with little Johnnie, your retirement years are out the window as you'll still be supporting him and whatever bratty kids from whatever crackhead stripper he knocked up. Well. If it's OK to pump little johnnie full of hormones so he'll grow boobs and be little Joanie, then why not make it legal to take little Johnnie out the picture entirely if you think things aren't going to pan out?
You do realize how much more important of an issue this is than a couple of mis-placed emails, don't you?
At least that's the thing on America's mind right now.

You know, last week, my granddaughter was saying she was an arrow. How much trouble would I have gotten into if I dusted off the cross bow and ....

Quote from cargame.nl :

It's funny how an interpretation of a nation flag can lead to a change of discussion. I stick with my home flag while I left the country years ago. Others replace their nations flag instantly when they emigrate.

What if the States of America all would have their own flag.. Would you get the same discussion but then based on state? Like someone from Texas or California are two completely different species all of a sudden?

I think everyone should have their very own personal flag.

And it's a good thing you stick with your home flag Cargame, cause if you display the flag from where you're at, it might tip off the authorities and they'll deport you.......

Oh and people from California and Texas ARE two different species to each other. But they both have a lot of pick up trucks. Remember, stick with the subject.

The subject of moving to Belize comes up quite a bit in conversations around here. We're at the stage right now where we are seriously considering to seriously consider moving there. Oh yeah. They have pick up trucks there too. In fact, after getting soaked on a boat ride, I had to jump in the back of one to get to an airport. There. Still on the subject

Quote from cargame.nl :

Because too many kids which don't know how to drive it but it are interesting cars because power to weight ratio. I would like LX8 if it can match this UFR/XFR garbage. LX8 with slicks.. Sweet.

Yeah, I think that would be the most practical. But I dunno... a street rod versus economy cars?
An LX8 would be the LFS equivalent to a muscle car. And even with slicks, I bet it would handle a lot like one.

I would like the LX8 too. I'd rather have that car than a "real" one.

Quote from danielroelofs :

This is even getting more interesting... a BMW a pretty good car? It's like technologically far beyond anything that was developed and built in your island nation. Could be even better if they would remove their built-in malfunctions to create contact moments for dealerships.. or just build engines that run 1 million km's easily without one single spanner on its engine. Unfortunately those days are over, ask Volvo how well you company will do in this market if you build cars that will last for 700.000km without any trouble. (Volvo is not from Texas btw.)


Unfortunately for the usa they do not run their own board.. but that's another discussion. More unfortunately for Europe.. is that we are really connected to your colonial island nation. That means in both financial ways and trading ways. ( It's why it is so important that Great Britain steps out of Europe!!) Because usa needs Europe more than ever. Pure ding dong coins is whats lacking because of your rubbish american dollar that your island nation dont want to see shrinking as an important world currency while its basically valueless already. This means we are nicely dragged into your financial rubbish since the financial crisis was blown over the ocean.

The EU/usa are in financially troubled water these days with what is it a state debt for usa of 140% gdp and the EU 126%? This with no recovery in sight yet. usa placing embargos on Russia, which turn out to work well for Russia that relocate export towards other nations and enhance ties with other brics nations and are less effective for us. (Another hard chess play and big loss for obama in the game Obama vs Putin).

This is more or less the reason why in the world of big companies its more or less last man standing and for smaller companies it will keep on being harder and harder just to continue being the second biggest. This while the biggest one continues eating the left overs from the ones that have fallen who were less big. Evident to this new york monetairy system though which we knew for years.

That's more the cause why e.g. Fiat has hard times even being able to set up a well positioned attack with new models etc etc. while meanwhile.. the asian car companies....


Damn.. Maybe I have even been given this colonial citizen a reason now to back up the war that the usa is trying to create to Russia. Well.. it might be a sollution you know.. as economies always woke up very nicely after wars just keep your children save

WOw. Nice post. Lotta reading though. Yeah A car that runs forever doesn't do much for job security.

"a BMW a pretty good car? It's like technologically far beyond anything that was developed and built in your island nation."
Ever work on one? By the way... I think Shotglass gave me this link too. I think. It was years ago. But the cheapest place to get Beemer parts anywhere? Yep. Dallas. Yeah. Dallas, Texas. Some giant warehouse.
Don't get me started on those cars.

"The EU/usa are in financially troubled water these days with what is it a state debt for usa of 140% gdp and the EU 126%?"
The world's been running on imaginary money since the mid-1980s, so?

"(Another hard chess play and big loss for obama in the game Obama vs Putin)."
Obama's a lame duck President. If we get stuck with HIllary, she might go psycho on him. If we get stuck with Trump? ....Summit meetings between BFFd.

"This is more or less the reason why in the world of big companies its more or less last man standing and for smaller companies it will keep on being harder and harder just to continue being the second biggest. This while the biggest one continues eating the left overs from the ones that have fallen who were less big. Evident to this new york monetairy system though which we knew for years."
Know another reason that kills off the little guy economically? Socially progressive over-regulation.
The only folks that can afford those regulations, the fees to be certified. The training for the employees to be certified to be regulated to be certified to work there.... Mom and Pop businesses can't afford all that.

"Damn.. Maybe I have even been given this colonial citizen a reason now to back up the war that the usa is trying to create to Russia. Well.. it might be a sollution you know.. as economies always woke up very nicely after wars just keep your children save "
You really don't have a clue, do you? YOu keep bashing 'merica and don't even know what's going on.
There's a real potential for things to get nasty here. WWIII? LOLOL no. More like our second civil war.
But that's OK, Your future really isn't so bright either. And monetary issues won't even be on the billing.

You know, I hung out with some Swedish kids a while back. Really nice people. Smart as hell. No way I could live there. I'd probably get deported.

So. If you watched an episode of NCIS Sweden, and there was a cut scene of a Fiat step-side doing a nice drift on a back street in Copenhagen, would you buy it then?
Oh what am I thinking? You're from Sweden. All it'll take is for a couple of y'all to decide that having one needs to be required work benefit and you'll have them all over the place faster than you can say male maternity leave.

Quote from Racer X NZ :

GM DOES include Holden !!!!

...... There are two simple reasons here: the US-Australian dollar exchange rate is abominable as far as exports are concerned, and there is likely little to no demand for a very pricey product that is neither fish nor fowl. Who is going to pay $50k for Corvette powered pseudo-pickup wearing a Chevrolet badge. Did we discuss the UAW’s reaction to an Australian built pickup, or the whole “cannibalizing GM’s new ‘lifestyle pickup’ thing “either? Both of those matter, but would require their own articles to really get into.

One thing that is not a factor is the chicken tax. Not long ago, Holden used the chicken tax as an excuse for why it’s been unable to export Utes to America. TTAC commenters soon produced plenty of evidence showing that Australian cars and “light commercial vehicles” (i.e. pickups and Utes) can be brought to America duty free. So that excuse is out. I feel for Holden though. The Australian domestic car industry is going down the tubes, their signature product is about to become just another boring front-drive appliance and all they want to do is send some good product to world markets.

The problem is nobody wants it. No matter how loud the internet cries out for it.



What a bunch of losers....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg0qyKTOczk&ab_channel=Holden

Holden VF Ute Vs The Nürburgring -- World record lap
The experts said we should be happy with 8 mins 40 secs. We hoped for 8 mins 30secs. See how we set the world record lap for a utility, pick up or any other commercial vehicle.

Think VF Ute. Think Holden.

It looks like a cross between an El Camino and a standard pick-up truck to me.

@Gavin:
Wow.... No wonder. I don't like any of those models. Especially the neon. Thanks to a Top Gear rerun, I thought Chrysler was trying to sell those 300 cars (the Hoodmobile) and Challengers and Chargers in the UK.
LOL the best "dodge" you can get in the UK is the old Jensen Interceptor. All the ones (like two) I've seen had 440 hemis.

"Who is going to pay $50k for Corvette powered pseudo-pickup wearing a Chevrolet badge"
In the 1990's Chevy did just that. They billed it as the worlds fastest production pick up. It wasn't cheap, but it didn't have that big of a price tag. I think it had a limited run and not that many buyers.

Quote from Flotch :

This LX8 will compete in the upcoming GTX class (~GT3) that will include cars like a 458 GT3 or a gallardo GT3 ... or GT4

am I dreaming a bit too much ?

Throw in Jennifer Anniston in a dominatrix outfit with a checkered flag, then maybe.

You know, it was the LX4 that made me go out and get a license in the first place, but I have to ask; Why are people interested in the LX8? No one even uses the 6 or the 4.
An LX8 would be nice, but what would it compete with? If you could control it, it would dominate the road cars and unless they put all sorts of spoilers on it and really beef up the motor, I don't see it doing so good against the GTR cars. It would have to be done like the MRT or the little Beemer. I don't remember what it's called.
Races where that car is the only one allowed in a race.... unless of course they put out more V8 models - or higher performing road cars than the current batch.
Even though I like the thought of an LX8, I can understand why they put it on a shelf. I never got to play with it, but I never heard much good about it from those that did. If they do bring out that car, It would be nice if it had velocity stacks sticking up out of the hood. Something that compliments the street rod Aesthetic this car has oozing all over.

Quote from GAVD999 :

I know what you are saying Racer Y but do you not think all the American truck companies have researched the exact thing you are talking about. Do you not think if Ford, Dodge or who ever thought they could make money bringing them over and selling them they already would be doing so?

As has already been discussed, there is no market, well ok there probably is but it would such a niche market it would not be worth the hassle of setting up everything they need over here, not just importing trucks but supplying parts, training mechanics & sales on them, right hand drive conversions etc, not to mention the cost of marketing them. Even then there is no guarantee they will sell many.

As said nothing against American pick ups, quite like some of them, I just can't see them fitting in on UK roads. Plus as both Dodge and Chrysler have both pulled out of selling cars now in the uk I really can't see any other companies taking the gamble, other than Ford maybe.

The only vehicles Chrysler makes that are halfway decent are HUGE. I wouldn't think they'd be very successful over there.
And I don't think American and Japanese makers have seriously considered marketing Trucks in the UK and Europe cause they're happy to just be able to get cars sold. This latest attempt from GM/Fiat might be the right one. Or it may fall flat on it's face. They're going to have to be as aggressive in marketing that truck as they were in marketing that little 300 scorpion car they've had success here with doing so.

Quote from GAVD999 :

I really can't see it making a difference Racer Y, Ford have only just started trying to sell the Mustang over here never mind trucks lol.

Yeah. It might not. But you do realize that in this day and age that there are people that specialize in creating markets where there are none. Sure a pick up is a different product than say diet soda or a clothing line, but the same principles apply. And I wouldn't be surprised that tactics I brought up plus many more were utilized to bring this about.
Isn't that crazy? No market? No problem! just make one up! There's all sorts of books and courses that teaches how to do just that.

@cargame... Why do you think think the Extended cab models came about?
You really don't know how close you came to hitting the nail on the head again, do you?
LOL you're a natural. Ford needs to get a hold of you.

Years ago a study was done on car sales. This study was trying to find out who bought what car and why.

The consumer that was more likely to have practical notions of buying a car was a woman. They asked the important questions about a car. They were concerned with gas mileage, dependability, maintenance and stuff like that.
The male consumer? They tended to be more concerned with how fast the car went, what colors it came in and what kind of stereo was in it.

And I think the only hope to get pick up sales in Europe is to promote its practical side instead of showing some four wheeled monolith with flat screen TVs for the backseat passengers.
Wait a minute....
Too bad we don't have SKYPE, then you could see the light bulb go off over my head.
If Fiat and GM want to get an established market for the truck they want to sell, there's a whole big block of people they stand a good chance of succeeding with. Immigrants from N.Africa and the Middle East.
These folks like trucks too. And not just ISIS types either. Farmers, Skilled Laborers, small merchants.

You know... Al i really was doing when I started this thread was musing about an observation I had. That's it. Now three pages into it, I'm obsessed with trying to market a product where there's no market for it. And poor ol Cargame is having nightmares about being chased by ISIS members driving Bigfoot and Grave Digger, blaring Tejano music and waving rebel flags.

Yeah. The title of this thread and the first paragraph of the first post was meant to be nothing more than
my typical sarcastic nonsense. In fact, the first paragraph was a reflection of pretty much what you'll hear on the news networks of FOX, CNN, The BBC and AlJazeera about Western Europe, the whole EU thing in particular, when they get tired of discussing Donald Trump. It was something to make what I thought was going to be a boring question a little bit more interesting.
But not now. This Sh!t's for real.
Ok. I'm still being sarcastic there too, but still. This subject has become quite ponderous.

You know..... You know why BMWs are popular cars in the US? No. Not because its a good car. It is a pretty good car (as long as you don't have to work on it) but that's not the reason. No. The reason is because of it's use in a couple of movies during the early 1980's. Hollywood expanded on this with the concept of "product placement" in it's movies.
Producers did that as a way to cover the production costs of the movies.
If Fiat and GM is serious about wanting to market Trucks in Western Europe, they may want to look into that. Help finance a couple of local TV show episodes... ones that will show the Truck in positive light. Not a dominating feature of the show though. No something subtle. Just something in the background. Just enough for the viewer to take notice. It worked wonders for Dr Pepper in the 90's.
Yeah. If I had something to do with it, I'd go that route. Plus, I'd go a step further and hit a target demographic: Women. Yes women. Well not as being the actual operator of said vehicle, but as a strong supporter of the family getting the vehicle. I don't know how many times I've heard women say they wanted to get their husbands a truck. They don't want the husband to have the truck because he'd look cool driving one. She wants that so she can have him. a big empty bed and a whole weekend to get him and that bed to do whatever it is she wants done. I would also go regional if I could. Like there probably isn't going to be a market for one in Berlin, but maybe in Hemer? I don't think I'd push sport trucks too much. Or the really big extended cab monsters for obvious reasons,
But I wouldn't try to sell utility models.

Quote from GAVD999 :

Is it worth it Dan? I see you got them cheap but by the time you've paid to have them machined or drilled they aren't going to be that cheap. Wouldn't it be easier to sell them and buy another set of wheels with the right fitment?

Yeah. What he said.

I'm at a total loss for the Hillary Clinton Phenomenon. I do know the term Ex-pat is sounding better and better.

Quote from wheel4hummer :

I don't know what trucks you're referring to, but the cheaper Maseratis aren't that great for the price. A mid-2000's Maserati Coupe still costs $15,000-$20,000.

Oh then I shoulda picked a more expensive car to compare to. Some of these kids convert a $2000 bucket of rust into 60k worth of motor, paint, interior and sound system.

Well. It's all but official. A Clinton Trump Showdown. Wow. That sucks.
I still think that Trump's in league with Hillary, but Who knows? If he just sticks to the same ol same ol school playground style name calling, he'll lose and I'll be convinced he was a scam all along. But if he really wants the Presidency, then he'll unleash a torrent of crap on her that could very well cast the Clintons completely out of the political picture here.
Every Presidential election, Serial Killer Charles Manson gets around 1500 votes. I think he'll get 1501 this time.

Quote from cargame.nl :

Ehhmm .. I counted seven pickups during my 2x 2 hour trip. Two of them Dodge Ram ... Isn't that enough? Maybe your perspective is a bit wrong, not everything can be seen from a computer monitor you know.

Now how to get rid of this attention to pickups I wonder. It's now in my head when I drive somewhere, thanks :[

And it's not that I don't like those things, I don't care.. If people want to buy it, go ahead.. One of my friends -also LFS active- bought a Ford extended something.. It's more like a tank.. They are happy with it, but I don't see the point. It's for the dogs they said. Hmm OK..

edit: oh a Ford F350 it is.

ROFL
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get the stupid idea stuck in your head...LOL
I'm trying to picture drive down the road, looking for trucks and thinking, "!*&^$$$ Racer Y!!!"

Consider yourslf lucky.
We have these "truck" clubs around here. Some of them are street versions of those racing Utes.
They put the name of their club in vinyl on the back window. Usually something stupid and mis-spelled. They drive like idiots and if you consider what they threw into to the truck money wise and consider they basically killed off any real use out of the vehicle besides going fast, they could've bought a Maserati.
and had money for gas.

"Now how to get rid of this attention to pickups I wonder. It's now in my head when I drive somewhere, thanks :["
LOLOLOLOLOL